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		<title>By: Kelly Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly Carson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a former LifeBound intern and current employee, I&#039;m sure I have a bit of bias when it comes to the subject of this blog post.  However, I feel compelled to weigh in - so I&#039;ll try to be as objective as I can!

First, let me say that I can certainly see the benefits and allure of University of Dreams.  However, I also come from a family that could not have afforded such a program.  Taking a look at the UoD website, I see a lot of talk about &quot;prestigious internships&quot; in the &quot;company and field of your choice&quot; with &quot;99% success rates*.  To me, that simply doesn&#039;t reflect the reality of the job market.  An unexpected side effect of UoD is that it doesn&#039;t allow for the opportunity to explore or keep an open mind - if students know what industry or what company they want, then that&#039;s what they get.  I think that the times when I&#039;ve learned the most from my career experiences are the times when things didn&#039;t go as expected - the adaptability I learned from that was truly important.

In college, I went through lots and lots of searching before finding my first internship - and learned a lot in the process. My internship &quot;linkup&quot; happened through an academic honor society- I saw a posting with LifeBound, sent in my resume, did a phone interview, and ended up with the best internship I could have asked for.  Of course, if you had asked me at the time, I would never have had the wherewithal to say I wanted a job in &quot;Educational Publishing&quot; or &quot;Student Success&quot; - I found the job with LifeBound because I kept an open mind, and it was better than I could have hoped.

Here&#039;s the other thing - I would never have learned as much from my summer internships if I had received all of the &quot;perks&quot; that University of Dreams provides.  Here&#039;s a list directly from their website:

Included in the program:
    * A Guaranteed Internship in the industry of your choice and a company you approve
    * Housing at Host Universities
    * Meal plan*
    * Organized weekend activities
    * Career seminars via our weekly Speaker Series
    * A professionally revised resume
    * Expert interview coaching
    * Daily transportation to and from work
    * Professional staff assistance
    * Welcome Reception
    * Orientation
    * Closing Ceremony
    * Program Gifts
    * Visa Sponsorship Assistance
    * Contract Academic Course Credit

By taking care of meals, food, budget, entertainment, resume development, etc., UoD seems to minimize the crucial personal development aspect of a summer internship.  Having an internship is like a &quot;trial run&quot; of being in the job world after college - finding a place, budgeting for meals, transportation, making new friends, finding work/life balance, developing as an employee - those are all things that I think are just as crucial as the job itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former LifeBound intern and current employee, I&#8217;m sure I have a bit of bias when it comes to the subject of this blog post.  However, I feel compelled to weigh in &#8211; so I&#8217;ll try to be as objective as I can!</p>
<p>First, let me say that I can certainly see the benefits and allure of University of Dreams.  However, I also come from a family that could not have afforded such a program.  Taking a look at the UoD website, I see a lot of talk about &#8220;prestigious internships&#8221; in the &#8220;company and field of your choice&#8221; with &#8220;99% success rates*.  To me, that simply doesn&#8217;t reflect the reality of the job market.  An unexpected side effect of UoD is that it doesn&#8217;t allow for the opportunity to explore or keep an open mind &#8211; if students know what industry or what company they want, then that&#8217;s what they get.  I think that the times when I&#8217;ve learned the most from my career experiences are the times when things didn&#8217;t go as expected &#8211; the adaptability I learned from that was truly important.</p>
<p>In college, I went through lots and lots of searching before finding my first internship &#8211; and learned a lot in the process. My internship &#8220;linkup&#8221; happened through an academic honor society- I saw a posting with LifeBound, sent in my resume, did a phone interview, and ended up with the best internship I could have asked for.  Of course, if you had asked me at the time, I would never have had the wherewithal to say I wanted a job in &#8220;Educational Publishing&#8221; or &#8220;Student Success&#8221; &#8211; I found the job with LifeBound because I kept an open mind, and it was better than I could have hoped.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the other thing &#8211; I would never have learned as much from my summer internships if I had received all of the &#8220;perks&#8221; that University of Dreams provides.  Here&#8217;s a list directly from their website:</p>
<p>Included in the program:<br />
    * A Guaranteed Internship in the industry of your choice and a company you approve<br />
    * Housing at Host Universities<br />
    * Meal plan*<br />
    * Organized weekend activities<br />
    * Career seminars via our weekly Speaker Series<br />
    * A professionally revised resume<br />
    * Expert interview coaching<br />
    * Daily transportation to and from work<br />
    * Professional staff assistance<br />
    * Welcome Reception<br />
    * Orientation<br />
    * Closing Ceremony<br />
    * Program Gifts<br />
    * Visa Sponsorship Assistance<br />
    * Contract Academic Course Credit</p>
<p>By taking care of meals, food, budget, entertainment, resume development, etc., UoD seems to minimize the crucial personal development aspect of a summer internship.  Having an internship is like a &#8220;trial run&#8221; of being in the job world after college &#8211; finding a place, budgeting for meals, transportation, making new friends, finding work/life balance, developing as an employee &#8211; those are all things that I think are just as crucial as the job itself.</p>
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		<title>By: carol carter</title>
		<link>http://www.caroljcarter.com/students-paying-for-unpaid-internships-carols-take/#comment-443</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps another question both students and parents can ask is: what experiences have I forged  on my own?  If students have had a University of Dreams experience, or something similar, then as an employer, I would be curious about the things they have done through leadership, volunteer work, or some other outside-of-school activity which really showed them who they are. IIn other words, I want to see the courageous difficulties that they have faced and surmounted.  The best employees are typically  the ones who have challenged themselves a great deal, learned first-hand about difficulty through the experience of their own grist, and surmounted some number of difficulties in making their dreams happen.  As long as students can give me those kinds of examples, I don&#039;t mind if their parents got them &quot;grand-fathered&quot; into an Ivy League or  paid for their summer internship because they can prove that they know can create their own way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps another question both students and parents can ask is: what experiences have I forged  on my own?  If students have had a University of Dreams experience, or something similar, then as an employer, I would be curious about the things they have done through leadership, volunteer work, or some other outside-of-school activity which really showed them who they are. IIn other words, I want to see the courageous difficulties that they have faced and surmounted.  The best employees are typically  the ones who have challenged themselves a great deal, learned first-hand about difficulty through the experience of their own grist, and surmounted some number of difficulties in making their dreams happen.  As long as students can give me those kinds of examples, I don&#8217;t mind if their parents got them &#8220;grand-fathered&#8221; into an Ivy League or  paid for their summer internship because they can prove that they know can create their own way.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Intern</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Intern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a former college intern, I have to say that I agree with Carol on this one.  In college, there was no way my parents could have afforded a program like University of Dreams - even if they could have taken out loans.  While I can see the benefits that would have been provided by that, I am actually glad in the end that I had the opportunity to forge out on my own.

I think that, while it&#039;s great to work for a prestigious company and have an &quot;in&quot; as soon as you can, the path you take to get there is equally important.  I take a great deal of pride in the fact that I found an internship through my own search in college, and that I was able to turn success in that internship into a great case for getting my first job after graduation.  

I think the skills that &quot;Proud Parent&quot; mentions - &quot;how to interview, create a resume, network, and excel in the work world&quot; - are absolutely crucial, and it truly is unfortunate if your school doesn&#039;t provide those for you.  However, those are also things I feel I learned by experience - by &quot;pounding the pavement&quot;, seeking advice from friends, family and professional mentors, and simply &quot;diving in&quot; to the work world and learning how to excel by being open to feedback and development.

Proud Parent, it sounds like you had the right intentions in mind and made sure your student understood the value of hard work, humility, and commitment.  Sadly, not everyone has that great parental support network, or the resources to afford a program like University of Dreams - so it&#039;s also important to recognize the critical value of the &quot;do it yourself&quot; method - and all of the great experience that can bring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former college intern, I have to say that I agree with Carol on this one.  In college, there was no way my parents could have afforded a program like University of Dreams &#8211; even if they could have taken out loans.  While I can see the benefits that would have been provided by that, I am actually glad in the end that I had the opportunity to forge out on my own.</p>
<p>I think that, while it&#8217;s great to work for a prestigious company and have an &#8220;in&#8221; as soon as you can, the path you take to get there is equally important.  I take a great deal of pride in the fact that I found an internship through my own search in college, and that I was able to turn success in that internship into a great case for getting my first job after graduation.  </p>
<p>I think the skills that &#8220;Proud Parent&#8221; mentions &#8211; &#8220;how to interview, create a resume, network, and excel in the work world&#8221; &#8211; are absolutely crucial, and it truly is unfortunate if your school doesn&#8217;t provide those for you.  However, those are also things I feel I learned by experience &#8211; by &#8220;pounding the pavement&#8221;, seeking advice from friends, family and professional mentors, and simply &#8220;diving in&#8221; to the work world and learning how to excel by being open to feedback and development.</p>
<p>Proud Parent, it sounds like you had the right intentions in mind and made sure your student understood the value of hard work, humility, and commitment.  Sadly, not everyone has that great parental support network, or the resources to afford a program like University of Dreams &#8211; so it&#8217;s also important to recognize the critical value of the &#8220;do it yourself&#8221; method &#8211; and all of the great experience that can bring.</p>
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		<title>By: Proud Parent</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Proud Parent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your opinion, and I do agree that not everyone can afford to do this internship program (although I believe we were offered a scholarship when my daughter applied). However, I don&#039;t agree with your arguement where you feel like utilizing an internship program will give my daughter a sense of entitlement when it comes to job searching, as stated in your opening argument. I feel University of Dreams filled the gap that her university failed to fill with regard to teaching her how to find an internship. University of Dreams taught her the essential skills necessary to get a job-- how to interview, create a resume, network, and excel in the work world. Additionally, University of Dreams made it possible for her to gain experience in the the global workplace. If she would have tried organizing this trip on her own, first of all, I wouldn&#039;t have felt very comfortable letting her spend a summer in London by herself, and second, it wouldn&#039;t be cheap to fund an adventure like this on her own. All things considered, I feel like this is an investment I would never take back. 

In regards to the &quot;disadvantaged families&quot; (and by no means is my family advantaged as we took out a loan), I feel a loan, or searching for scholarships for something that has a direct impact on your career (similar to investing in college), is well worth the interest paid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your opinion, and I do agree that not everyone can afford to do this internship program (although I believe we were offered a scholarship when my daughter applied). However, I don&#8217;t agree with your arguement where you feel like utilizing an internship program will give my daughter a sense of entitlement when it comes to job searching, as stated in your opening argument. I feel University of Dreams filled the gap that her university failed to fill with regard to teaching her how to find an internship. University of Dreams taught her the essential skills necessary to get a job&#8211; how to interview, create a resume, network, and excel in the work world. Additionally, University of Dreams made it possible for her to gain experience in the the global workplace. If she would have tried organizing this trip on her own, first of all, I wouldn&#8217;t have felt very comfortable letting her spend a summer in London by herself, and second, it wouldn&#8217;t be cheap to fund an adventure like this on her own. All things considered, I feel like this is an investment I would never take back. </p>
<p>In regards to the &#8220;disadvantaged families&#8221; (and by no means is my family advantaged as we took out a loan), I feel a loan, or searching for scholarships for something that has a direct impact on your career (similar to investing in college), is well worth the interest paid.</p>
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		<title>By: carol carter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carol carter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your perspective.   Please know that I realize that these firms have their place.  I still believe that it is incumbent on students--beginning in high school--to seek real world experiences while they are in college through internships and part-time jobs.  Many deserving students whose parents can&#039;t afford such services need to rely on their own connections and personal initiative to forge these contacts on their own.  I want to encourage all students to that--those who are from disadvantaged as well as advantaged families--because, eventually they will be working side by side in the global workplace.

Certainly some fields--like fashion design--may be harder for students to make those contacts.  I am interested in showing all aspects of these options so that students and parents can see the trade-offs of different decisions. Thanks for sharing your perspective and I hope I have helped you to gain a better sense of my point of view.

All the best,
Carol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your perspective.   Please know that I realize that these firms have their place.  I still believe that it is incumbent on students&#8211;beginning in high school&#8211;to seek real world experiences while they are in college through internships and part-time jobs.  Many deserving students whose parents can&#8217;t afford such services need to rely on their own connections and personal initiative to forge these contacts on their own.  I want to encourage all students to that&#8211;those who are from disadvantaged as well as advantaged families&#8211;because, eventually they will be working side by side in the global workplace.</p>
<p>Certainly some fields&#8211;like fashion design&#8211;may be harder for students to make those contacts.  I am interested in showing all aspects of these options so that students and parents can see the trade-offs of different decisions. Thanks for sharing your perspective and I hope I have helped you to gain a better sense of my point of view.</p>
<p>All the best,<br />
Carol</p>
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		<title>By: Proud Parent</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carol, I am a bit shocked by your stance on these  internship service firms. Although I agree that you should never pay a firm to &quot;hand&quot; a student an internship, I don&#039;t know that you fully covered what these service firms provide. The reason I am so adament about this subject, is that my daughter participated in the University of Dreams in London, and they didn&#039;t &quot;hand&quot; her an internship. I was really impressed with the professional development aspect of the program, as they taught my daughter how to build a resume, as well as they trained her on how to interview successfully. Comparatively, I am embarassed to say that the money I invested in her college education (100,000+) did nothing to prepare her for, or assist in helping her pursue fashion internships in London. Thankfully, University of Dreams provided housing, meals and 24 hours staff. They were over the top professional in all aspects and exceeded my expectations in all facets--including organizing activities to get aquainted to London. Overall, until career centers do more on their campuses, I would highly recommend parents to research these professional development programs and not just to &quot;protect their kids and provide them with the best life possible&quot; but to really watch them mature and grow professionally. I think University of Dreams was one of the most beneficial investments I have ever made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol, I am a bit shocked by your stance on these  internship service firms. Although I agree that you should never pay a firm to &#8220;hand&#8221; a student an internship, I don&#8217;t know that you fully covered what these service firms provide. The reason I am so adament about this subject, is that my daughter participated in the University of Dreams in London, and they didn&#8217;t &#8220;hand&#8221; her an internship. I was really impressed with the professional development aspect of the program, as they taught my daughter how to build a resume, as well as they trained her on how to interview successfully. Comparatively, I am embarassed to say that the money I invested in her college education (100,000+) did nothing to prepare her for, or assist in helping her pursue fashion internships in London. Thankfully, University of Dreams provided housing, meals and 24 hours staff. They were over the top professional in all aspects and exceeded my expectations in all facets&#8211;including organizing activities to get aquainted to London. Overall, until career centers do more on their campuses, I would highly recommend parents to research these professional development programs and not just to &#8220;protect their kids and provide them with the best life possible&#8221; but to really watch them mature and grow professionally. I think University of Dreams was one of the most beneficial investments I have ever made.</p>
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